Forum:Alternative to deletion - send to other projects
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I would like to propose an idea that I've been ruminating for some time, but that the recent crisis (happily solved without too much bloodspill) in Wikinet motivated me to put to discussion to everyone.
It's the problem of the autocratic deletion of pages in some wikis, when those pages could perfectly fit into other wikis.
Let me exemplify using the Portuguese-language wikis.
We have Desciclopédia, a humour wiki with 400.000 articles whose purpose is the dissemination of misinformation, where small and badly written articles are mercilessly deleted. On the same server, we have Malucopédia, that will have 1000 articles this September, but whose idea is that it's an inclusionist project, where almost anything (one liners, copy-and-paste of Wikipédia, spambots are deleted, of course) can remain. Is it too much to ask the eliminators of Desciclopédia to think about moving the article to Malucopédia?
Also, there are many articles in both Desciclopédia and Malucopédia that clearly violate the rules, articles whose content is 100% true about Internet sites. Those articles shoould be moved to Wikinet. Ditto about Wikinet articles that are either falsehoods (move to Desciclopédia) or nonsense (move to Malucopédia).
Obviously, what I wrote for the Portuguese-language wikis also applies to other languages, we could think about this procedure for the Ukranian-language wikis, the .ua uncyc Інциклопедія, http://inciklopedia.org/ and the .ua ED Енциклопедія Драматика, http://dramatica.org.ua/ . Or any other language with different wikis. Cthulhu.fhtagn (talk) 14:04, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Unlike Malucopédia and Wikinet, Desciclopédia doesn't have a clearly rule about what kind of humor fits well on it. There's many articles that are nonsensical, falsehood, truth, black humor and many others types of humor. And this, by the fact that they dislike others projects, I think they would not like that ideia, but you can try talk with them... Now, if is to send articles to Malucopédia, I agree with that. Mgs (talk • things to revert) 21:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
My answer about it...
I can not ensure that a DP's article can not be a rule for you to know some of the rules on content when editing, speaks at... Do not copy text from other sites unless you have permission, or the owner of the texts or the texts are in the public domain (or under a free license). This text is when you edit an article.
Send articles to DP and MP or vice versa, theoretically, it became impossible due to the history of friction between users. For my part, would see no impediment to that, however would require an agreement between the parties concerned. The same case for both Ukrainian wikis mentioned. Although I do not believe in the Ukrainian uncy no articles that can exchange with its counterpart ED.
Unfortunately it is a fact, however, the DP uses in scope terms nerd and geek that I see in their other counterparts. That is, despite not having any clear rule about your kind of humor, she is very close to the humor used in Uncyclopedia. The Wikinet has its kinship with the ED's wikis but the Malucopédia does not have a similarity of their mode of humor with Illogicopédia and more importantly she has a scope of humor much like the DP, which makes many users feel that kind of negative feeling. Rhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,385 preppiedits 15:32, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- Não copie textos de outros sites, a não ser que você tenha permissão, seja o dono dos textos ou que os textos estejam em domínio público (ou sob uma licença livre). (Portuguese tradution)
- If Desciclopédia is under a free licence, it is perfectly legitimate to copy text which once appeared there to some other wiki, provided that the original history is preserved (to give attribution to the authors of the text) and the same free licence is retained. Linking back to Desciclopédia is likely not enough if the article there is deleted; you must move the list of contributors (article history) with the article. It's not OK to translate Desciclopédia articles to Inciclopédia, but that's only because the licences are too different (Inciclopédia's allows commercial use, DP's does not). Also, if you *are* the author, you can do as you please with your own work. Carlb (talk) 17:10, 10 January 2013 (UTC)