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es and gl Weirdpedias[edit]

I'm thinking of bringing UnMeta the surviving projects of Weirdpedia (Spanish and Galician) in Wikia created by Renan Jackson (present Aset, of Wikimerda) since he was the creator of both. As the two wikis were not alerted of a possible end, I think I would find them. Both wikis do not have more than 10 articles.

At this point, I am in a conversation with Aset to negotiate the coming of the two here but I will change the name of the projects so that they get the translated name of the original wiki in English, Weirdpedia.

ISO URL Project Status
es https://es.wikimerda.org or https://es.wikimerda.info es.Wikimerda
gl https://galimerda.org or https://gl.wikimerda.info Galimerda

The humor used in the Brazilian version (Wikimerda) relies heavily on themes related to politics, that is, apparently I believe that Wikimerda overlaid the original wiki (Weirdpedia) by being a parodyed version of Conservapedia and RationalWiki, at least on politics. The other articles that do not have something related appear humor similar to the one of Uncy/Illogicopedias. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 02:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Could these be created as a subdomain of an existing domain (such as es.wikimerda.org, if the existing project is pt.wikimerda.org)? It makes little sense to pay annually for a domain if a project only has 8-12 pages and little activity. Carlb (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
I agree, and made the changes to the table. These become definitive. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 02:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Bureaucrat[edit]

Ok, now I lack the bureaucratic powers to handle wikis. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 22:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Question[edit]

A user under the name of 'Carlb82195' has been created on Wikia Uncyclopedia. Since you had already commented there under your original user name, I am presuming this is a sock account. Please confirm here or at Unc Wikia.

It would be safe to assume that any "new" user with no extended edit history of expanding the encyclopaedic content is a sock if they suddenly jump directly into discussion of obscure administrative questions like the transition of individual projects to new servers as their only contribution. Carlb (talk) 17:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Nonsensopedia[edit]

Hey, crat and server admin of nonsa .pl here, we recently moved there from Wikia. We also had a fork last year lead by people who were unhappy with Fandom removing Monobook, they moved to Miraheze (nonsensopedia .miraheze .org). Over the last few months people slowly abandoned the Miraheze fork and started coming back to Wikia. After we've been kicked out by Wikia and we moved to an independent host, pretty much everyone from Miraheze decided to move to nonsa.pl. Until recently, Miraheze had three admins, now they have only one, as two of them (Mr obornik and Polskacafe) left for nonsa.pl. Now the only one left is ZelDelet (the crat) and his sockpuppets, and the Miraheze fork is lacking in content and editors. Now most of their recent changes is Zel ranting about "traitors", "plots" and other things that I would rather not translate. To put it lightly – he said a lot of umm... bad things about almost everyone in the community and literally nobody wants to have anything to do with him.

In this situation – with nonsensopedia .miraheze .org being pretty much a dead toxic wasteland, would you consider redirecting nonsensopedia .org to nonsa .pl? When we talked about it last time on the forum, I still wasn't sure how many of their admins would come to nonsa .pl, now it turns out it's all of them with one particular exception. If you want me to provide you with logs about Zel, I can do that, but it's all in Polish and I really don't like drama, I prefer to settle things based on logical reasoning. Ostrzyciel vel

For some reason an "Anti-LTA" filter prevents me from writing here, so I wrote to you on your talk page on co. I hope this message goes through the filter. ~~Magwac 16:39, 2 April 2019
I'm a bit unsure of what you're trying to do here. Are you trying to get nonsensopedia.miraheze shut down (in which case the issue should be raised there) or are you just looking for a "nonsensopedia" domain from which to serve your new pl: site (in which case I could give you one of .net or .info)? Carlb (talk) 02:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
I just want the project to stay alive. Another .net or .info domain wouldn't help at all with the confusion among our readers, I just don't want people to stumble upon this toxic place with "Nonsensopedia" name on it. The two most recent pages on Miraheze (this and this) both have nothing to do with humour (but they are placed in content namespaces) and are rants about plots, traitors and dictators on Nonsensopedia (it's mostly about me being a bloodthirst monster, because I dared not to take orders from Zel, ugh). Most of the discussions taking place there is Zel talking to himself through sockpuppets. Look, since last summer with the help of some talented people I've managed to pull this project back from hell (after the fork things started getting really toxic) and I only want the project to remain alive as long as possible. We are quite different than Uncyclopedia, actually, we take things a little bit more… seriously and we have a really good brand awareness in Poland. Seriously, this year we even went to promote ourselves IRL on conventions, we gave a few talks.
Yes, I know this sounds quite a bit hostile to propose to move a domain from one project to another, but here I'm just trying to do what's best for the future of the project as a whole. You are the one with the domain, so ultimately it is up to you what you decide to do. I can just propose observing both projects more closely for a bit. Yes, I know, we speak Polish which sounds like the devil's dishwasher or something, but still, maybe you can make something of it with the help of some translator. I suggest taking a look at how much content is produced on both sites, how do they promote themselves (we have a FB page, a Twitter account and an Instagram account, they do nothing) and how are they managed (we are having monthly admin meetups on IRC, the closest one being on Friday 17:30 UTC, here you can find the topics we will be discussing).
I hope you make some sense out of it, it's morning where I am and I may be mumbling semi-coherently due to that. Anyway, I hope you have a good look and decide for yourself. Magwac (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
By the way, I think they are back to vandalising nonsa.pl – have a look. I strongly suspect the person behind this is 209po, he is a member of the fork's "community" and he has been doing spambot attacks on us since last summer. I wouldn't be surprised if Zel was encouraging these attacks – here are logs from their Discord server from two days ago. From 1:45PM they talk about vandalisms on nonsa.pl and Zel says vandalising nonsa.pl is OK. He also calls us "liar dogs" and a few other very "nice" things too… Just thought you may find it interesting. Magwac (talk) 12:29, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Nonsensopedia again[edit]

Hi, it's me again, yaaay…

I've accidentally noticed you have redirected nonsensopedia.net and .info to nonsa.pl, thanks for that, but to be honest… that's not what I meant and it doesn't help us any. I may have explained the problem not that well, so I'll try to express it again, maybe I'll be more clear this time.

So, the situation is as follows: some people forked Nonsensopedia, moved to Miraheze, the fork started dying a slow death and over the last few months people started coming back to Wikia. After the Wikia Nonsensopedia was forced to move to an independent host (nonsa.pl), 2 out of 3 of their admins have decided to leave it in favor of nonsa.pl. The only one that stayed is their crat, who is famous among the community for doing nothing but drama and bossing people around. People who have moved to nonsa.pl have had most of their creative input moved with them too. After these people left the fork, they were immediately banned by Zel (their crat) for "treason" – if you take a look into that log, Polskacafe is their former admin and UsagiChan their former moderator, they have both moved to nonsa.pl. In case you are wondering – Ambriel is a sock of Zel, he gave it all possible rights on the wiki. Pretty much the only one left there is Zel and his socks. All he writes about (in content namespaces, not forums) are essays on traitors, "dogs", "venomous snakes" and the like. I wish I was joking, unfortunately I am not. Seriously, the last time they wrote ANYTHING was in December. In that time we wrote uhh, a bit more, and that's just the main namespace.

There are also other factors. See, the miraheze fork is present in Google search results. And that is bad for a few reasons. First of all, Nonsensopedia is a really well-known brand in Poland, I think most people aged 18-25 would recognize it without a problem. Having a dead project full of toxic crap coming up in Google is really bad for the brand. If the fork was alive or at least not a toxic wasteland with one crazy guy running it, we would be absolutely fine with it. But here… we don't want people associate us with this thing. Especially some of us who represent Nonsensopedia in real life and for example give talks about it on conventions (this particular one is me talking about free culture in Gniezno). Would you want someone to ask you questions why do you have such toxic content on your wiki? Well, neither would we.

Now, please consider this: the vast majority of editors and admins has moved to a different project along with their work. It would be fair to say that the people have decided democratically "with their legs" which project they want to work on. Look, the only problem now is Zel himself. We don't want one person to destroy our hard work. Wouldn't it be fair if the majority had the right to decide which project should get the "main" nonsensopedia.org domain? With their work migrated to the new host, I think it would be fair. Please, take a longer while to think about this. For almost all intents and purposes, nonsa.pl is a merge of nonsensopedia.wikia.com and nonsensopedia.org, there is just one guy who thinks otherwise. Wouldn't it make sense to redirect nonsensopedia.org to nonsa.pl? Zel still has nonsensopedia.miraheze.org to fall back on...

Anyway, please, take your time to think about this. I just want to do everything to make this project survive another 14 years or even more, I hope you will help us :) Magwac (talk) 15:25, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

"Having a dead project full of toxic crap coming up in Google is really bad for the brand." Hmm, that's how a lot of us have felt about Wikia over the years. FANDOM would do something that served its own interest but harmed the community, the impacted users would take their content and go elsewhere (as is their right under the free licence), Wikia would use SEO to destroy the new project by keeping "a dead project full of toxic crap" open in order to crush the upstart community with the search engine duplicate content penalty. We've been living with this for too many years in too many languages (the Russians forked in 2010, the Americans in 2013 and there's a long list of non-Uncyclopedias with the same issues). You seemingly were fine with this. In one case, I'd even had problems with one of your administrators (User:Szoferka, in 2007) going to projects I was hosting and demanding the community switch to Wikia; the only ones who took the bait were Neciklopedie (cs), but where did it get them? They're safe with Lyrithya now, but their SEO is destroyed - same as anyone else who threw their lot in with Wikia - as Wikia is returning "this wiki is closed" instead of saying where everyone went. That was their decision, not mine.
I didn't destroy Nonsensopedia. Wikia did. They've also destroyed a lot of other Uncyclopedias. It's really not my place to be deciding winners and losers by pulling domains out from existing projects. If your concern were that you wanted a domain which said "nonsensopedia" (instead of just "nonsa") I'd be more than willing to turn nonsensopedia.net over to you... but this doesn't appear to be what you're doing. Carlb (talk) 15:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I... don't think you read any of what I wrote. Please, take your time to read this. In Poland we say nigdy nie sądź po pozorach, which means (roughly) never use prejudice. This is especially true here. Magwac (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

http://pesquisa.la[edit]

Hello, I am a user of the Brazilian Uncyclopedia. Man, I can not enter the Uncyclopedia through the address http://pesquisa.la, is giving Cloudfare error. When I try for http://desciclopedia.org, it loads infinitely and the page never appears. Do you have this problem too?2804:18:681D:AEDB:9818:9400:D25D:9BEB 22:58, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

It looks like pesquisa.la is back. Carlb (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Desgalierror[edit]

The Recent Changes in Desgalipedia crashed at 22:29 as if a lightning bolt had struck Hill Valey's Clock Tower. And even continuing to edit the Recent Changes are locked at that moment. Could help? Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 23:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh, it's happening here too. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 00:12, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Missed Issues in Desgali's RecentChanges. Only open my contributions but not Recent changes.
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:51 (dif | hist) . . (+43) . . m Profesor Locovich (→Véxase tamén) (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:50 (dif | hist) . . (+102) . . m Profesor Locovich (→Invencións creadas polo profesor Locovich)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:46 (dif | hist) . . (+6) . . m Ficheiro:Penelope.gif (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:44 (dif | hist) . . (+29) . . m Ficheiro:Penelope Glamour con baton.gif (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:41 (dif | hist) . . (+6) . . m Ficheiro:Girl flag.jpg (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:40 (dif | hist) . . (+6) . . m Ficheiro:A Antigualla Blindada.jpg (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:37 (dif | hist) . . (+10) . . m Ficheiro:Alexandra envexa Josie.png (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:22 (dif | hist) . . (+51) . . N Categoría:Thundercats (Nova páxina: "{{AP|Thundercats}} Categoría:Debuxos animados") (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:21 (dif | hist) . . (+39) . . m Ficheiro:Lion cagando.jpg ‎ (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:18 (dif | hist) . . (+40) . . N Ficheiro:Arde Notre-Dame Mentalist.jpg (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:15 (dif | hist) . . (+39) . . m Batman v Superman: o amencer da xustiza (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:14 (dif | hist) . . (+34) . . m Batman v Superman: o amencer da xustiza
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:13 (dif | hist) . . (+40) . . N Ficheiro:Batman v Superman forceawakens.jpg (última revisión)
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:12 (dif | hist) . . (0) . . Ficheiro:Lion cagando.jpg (Rhubella Marie cargou unha nova versión de "Ficheiro:Lion cagando.jpg")
29 de abril de 2019 ás 00:11 (dif | hist) . . (+43) . . N Ficheiro:Lion cagando.jpg
28 de abril de 2019 ás 23:13 (dif | hist) . . (-1) . . m Ficheiro:Rapaza.jpg (última revisión)

I just want to know if there's a chance these issues will be lost. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 01:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Reformation of Babel[edit]

English for Yandex Translate: You should already know (or not) that here I propose a reform in Babel because it is very old-fashioned compared to Wikipedia. But I don't know where the Wikipedia Babel source code would be (I don't mean view-source:https://wikipedia.org). If you know, tell me. If you probably do not know the future of Babel will be this (I created a specific Babel for Illogicopedia here) and the second list of Uncyclopedias would move here. To make all these changes (and also to exclude some useless articles there), I would like to be Babel's administrator.

Português por mim mesmo: Você já deve saber (ou não) que aqui proponho uma reforma na Babel pois ela está muito antiquada em comparação com a da Wikipédia. Mas não sei onde estaria o código-fonte da Babel da Wikipédia (não me refiro ao view-source:https://wikipedia.org). Se você souber me diga. Se você não souber provavelmente o futuro da Babel será esse (criei uma Babel específica para a Illogicopedia aqui) e a segunda lista das Uncyclopedias moveria pra . Pra fazer todas essas alterações (e também para excluir uns artigos inúteis por lá), gostaria de ser administrador da Babel.

Icons-flag-br.png JPLSilva 23:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

There's some info on wikipedia:meta:project portals but it looks like their Babel front page, at least for Wikipedia, isn't actually static content. They are running code (which is checked into gerrit somewhere) which tries to guess the language of the user's browser and determine which Wikipedias get the most pageviews. I doubt that would work here, as everything on this server is behind Cloudflare and, even for the externally-hosted languages, there are no statistics for viewership. Carlb (talk) 23:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

UnData[edit]

UnData is suffering attacks from IPs norwegian vandals.

If you have time, it would be a good option to put me there as an administrator. Rhubella selo-02.pngRhubella Marie, the rat sockpreppie 2,852 preppieditsRhubella selo-01.png 14:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Is it possible to grant me the CheckUser tools in Uncommons?[edit]

Nos ultimos dias eu estou tendo problemas com um vândalo, que vive atacando a mim e a Rhubella Marie, eu já sou Sysop na Uncommons, mas esse vândalo vive burlando o bloqueio modificando o seu IP, então com essa ferramente vai facilitas para, eliminar a faixa de IP dele e assim, impedir que ataque outro usuários.

Translation:
In the last days I'm having problems with a vandal, who lives attacking me and user: Rhubella Marie, I'm already Sysop in Uncommons, but this vandal is cheating the block by modifying its IP, with this tool will facilitate to, eliminate the IP range of it and thus prevent it from attacking other users. Dragomaniaco (talk) 16:20, 28 June 2019 (UTC)